Alternate Title (from Jay): “So, you’re just arguing with people on the internet now?”
Yep, pretty much.
Last week a Facebook friend (someone I know but someone that doesn’t live in the country and who I’m not close with) wrote what can only be called a tirade in response to this Buzzfeed article in which some writers imitated Victoria’s Secret poses on the beach wearing the same swimsuits as the models.
Mostly the article was meant to be humorous, and it seems to me that the article was also meant to illustrate, yet again, that there really aren’t a ton of models that represent regular people, no matter how much we celebrate a few plus-sized models here and there.
However, this person took the article to mean that the women were somehow upset that THEY didn’t look like the actual VS models, and a … conversation … ensued. I was a part of it, as were a few other women from my high school that I respect immensely. In thinking about this over the course of several days, I think mostly that this was a misunderstanding of “the point.” However, every time I read over it I become more and more frustrated that this is STILL what people think of women – no matter how hard we work for equality, there are still people who think that we are simply there for the enjoyment of men. Or, at least, the hot ones are.
Some of the comments in the conversation are mine, some belong to other people. There was exactly one man who came to the defense of women, and it was refreshing.
Other men interjected with things like “look at this funny long thread!” which…great. Helpful.
I know this is a lot to read, and I really respect you if you’re actually taking the time. Even if you just read bits and pieces, though, it’s kind of ridiculous. One of the ladies on this post took a ton of time to compile this all and make helpful animal pictures for each commenter, because I have no interest in shaming anyone for their beliefs. But, since this is my blog and I don’t care what you think of me you can read my comments next to the blue giraffe.
After a few days things got a little….much, and everyone kind of tired of arguing about the same thing: men saying that women are only here for their enjoyment and only certain of us are hot, and women saying YOU ARE DUMB.
So it ended, as these things do. We have these great rants online that have some good points and then they just….go away. Is that the problem with the internet or with society? We all have a lot of thoughts but then nothing happens because…what do you even do about something like this? I have a lot of thoughts on the issue, but mainly there is some “oh shit, YOUNG PEOPLE think things like this, too,” that consumes me. Old conservatives get a pass for generationally being behind the times, IMO, but somehow it makes it worse to me when young people refuse to stand up for one another.
I want to REITERATE that this is not meant to shame anyone, or make anyone mad (though I’m prepared for any hate and anger tossed my way). The point here is to keep the conversation going, and maybe you can tell me: is there an issue here? Is this just one person’s opinion or is this a systemic issue that is consistently holding women back from equality to men based on the belief that we are just there for the enjoyment of straight males? Do we just ignore the haters and move on? In this particular case I think the answer is hell yeah, because I’m not going to spend a ton of time upset about this, but what about the rest of the humans that are all “yeah, bro, I wonder if the models he uses are hot,” full stop. Where does THAT end?
Ok, sigh, go ahead and shout about how dumb angry feminists are.